Permission granted by author to repost any or all of following: WELCOME to the "Premier" Edition of........ Pinpoint Newsletter (c)1980-92 Rev Robert Shannon / Editor earth@televar.com Cleveland/Mendocino/Curlew OUR GOAL: To promote open mindedness in the field of geology, seismicity and to educate in alternative methods of earthquake prediction. TO MAKE GOD FIRST IN OUR LIFES WHETHER CHRISTIAN OR OTHER! OUR READERS: This newsletter is sent out in SIX separate bundles to 400 subscribers. As of this issue half of these subscribers are professional geologists, seismologists and educators at schools of higher learning, teaching courses in related fields. The remaining subscribers come from all walks of life and were "recruited" through the SEISMIC, QUAKE-L, VOLCANIC mailing listservers as well as the Usenet groups ca.earthquakes and sci.geo.earthquakes. Of the 200, many subscribers expressed interest in alternative and unorthodox methods of prediction. Many told us that they actually explore these methods in college classes. Here is what some of them said when subscribing to Pinpoint: --- A Mr. R.S, a teaching geologist at a California senior college wrote us: " I teach a course on Hazards and Risk of Earthquakes and Volcanoes and try to keep up with and present to my classes as many alternative hypotheses as possible. Earthquake prediction is one of the most popular topics in the course; we spend most of a week on it." ___A Ms. K.B., who teaches at a college in Ohio wrote: " I am a geology professor at a liberal arts college. Several years ago I designed and have semi-regularly taught a geology course about earthquake and volcano hazard mitigation. In it I have included (among other topics) psychic prediction of earthquakes, how different religious views affect how people respond to earthquake mitigation, prediction, etc. I believe that anything which affects how people respond to hazard mitigation is relevant to the course." ----A Mr. R.L., who teaches at a college in Northern California wrote us: " I am a geology professor at (deleted) state university in northern California. I have done research on animal behavior, and teach a general education class in earthquakes, and geophysics. I do earthquake information interviews with the local medium and am regarded as the local info source for this." ******************************Please Note***************************** We have and will excluded the names and schools of our readers because promoting anonymity will encourage people to speak out on subjects they may otherwise avoid. If you wish your name and/or school printed, let us know. ************************************************************************ NOTE from Rev. Shannon As editor, no as a person who felt quite alone in my phenomenon of earthquake predictions via bio-magnetic methods, I was !quite! surprised to receive the enormous amount of mail from educated folks like myself, who have not only open minds, but curious minds. I have personally become very weary of the term "New Age". In my personal quest for "inner truth", I discovered that the very basic tennets of science are intermingled with what has always seemed so vague and mystical. Theoretical physicists have written books on the connections between eastern philosophy and its ties with science and the time seems now that this wholistic\gestault picture is coming alive! Good science is just that and we need it...but without a spirit of imagination, where would we ever be? *********************************************************************** MY STORY: (Part I) In the early 1980's when Mt. St. Helens blew her top, I was cloistered in my home up here in Fort Bragg Cal, with an extreme case of agoraphobia. I had been diagnosed as a schizoprenic in 1976, but it was more a diagnosis of convenience rather than acurate. Married 30 years now, my wife and I are well educated, have seven children with our three oldest in college. Oldest is suma senior at Eastern Washington University. Other EWU student is 3.7 cume..and younger children all "normal". In other words, we are not an unusual family,other than my diagnosed "illness". After St. Helens blew, actually 1 hour after, I went into complete remission and stayed that way for a week. A cycle of remissions and backslides coincided with the following explosive eruptions. We (my wife and I ) thought that was very interesting. My "condition", when it is at it's worst, is hard to take. There is depression, anxiety and some paranoia. I would not wish this on anyone. We thought it very curious that the eruptions were giving the appearance of having a direct effect on me, but at that time we figured it was coincidental. It wasn't until years later that we really began to take notice. As the years past along, I discovered that I would be extremely "agitated" a week or so before an earthquake, then all of a sudden I would be calm... followed in 2-3 days by an earthquake,usually somewhere within say 250-300 miles of us. These quakes would be in the 3.6 and above range, the kind that usually make the news as opposed to the daily hundreds of smaller quakes. Sometime in the late 80's...say 1986 or so, I decided to find out if anyone else was having the same reactions as myself. I called several universities, whom I thought might be doing research in areas such as this. I didn't have much luck but did have some. Do not remember where,but somewhere in Northern Cal, there was a university which was doing research into how earthquakes affected schizophrenics. They didn't need any more volunteers but it gave me cause for more thought and focus on what was happening. I read as much as I could at local libraries. By this time we had just purchased a new home in Woodland,near Sacramento and I used the library at UC Davis to do more research on my own. Seemed to me that nobody else was much interested. My family knew and understood but anyone else I confided in saw it as a curiousity and nothing else... or they were sceptical..so I pretty much kept it all to myself. In 1988 we left Woodland for a completely new adventure. We purchased 20 acres of wilderness land in Washington State, near the Idaho and British Columbia borders. Sold the house and took all of our belongings and kids to live in the mountains, 5 miles from the nearest electricity, no running water...very sparse population except coyotes, cougars and such. We built our own cabin, put up a couple of solar panels, homeschooled the four youngest kids and generally had a great time, with the exception of winters. 2 feet of snow and -30 degrees our first winter. We had to put chains on our 4x4 K5 Blazer to take the older kids 3 miles and down 2500' (thats a big drop in a short drive!) and drive 2-5 mph down a windy road in unplowed 2 foot drifts. We lived that way for 4 and a half years. The only earthquake I predicted while there was the 1989 SF earthquake. Then in 1992 my wife came down with degenerative arthritis of the spine and we were forced to move back to Fort Bragg. It was here in Fort Bragg that I again started to have the "problems" with EQ activity and emotions...Someone suggested I post my predictions on a network called "Rime", which I did. Although we had a very interesting time,there were not too may people there who cared one way or the other. One suggested I take my predictions to the big net...and so a year or so ago I started posting them on the Usenet group ca.earthquakes,where many USGS geologists "hang out". We were met with initial scepticism...as I figured we would be, but as time went on and our "hit rate" improved we started turning a few heads in the scientific community. With their help and advice, I have learned much more about the mechanics of earthquake and have been "refining" and coming to understand much more about what happens to me. I also discovered dozens of others who have similar problems...While they were afraid to speak out about it, they generously wrote me private email about their similar scenarios. Most of the USGS folks who write privately to me are off the record. One USGS feller up in Washington I believe, was "relieved" of his job a few years back when he started getting interested in alternative ways of predicting quakes and so I suspect many others are unwilling to say or do much on the record. .....(next issue Part II) will deal with the actual feelings themselves..specifically what they are and how you too can look out for them, as it is my belief that most anyone can predict earthquakes given the proper understanding of themselves.... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A Letter from Micael Stuckey follows (name used with permission) and after that some comments: Hello Bob: 1. I lived in Southern California for over 35 years and for the last 7 was able to realize an innate sense of upcoming EQ's in that area; I called every major and about 2/3 of the minor quakes usually within 48 hours but always with a week's accuracy. 2. I believe I started to realize this ability shortly after a visit I had with a great, now late, psychic by the name of Adele Tinning in San Diego. My wife and I had dinner with her the evening before the great Mexico City quake in September of, oh, 1985 or 86. She said she had felt somewhat ill all afternoon, and while we were there received a telephone call from the woman in the Northwest, I believe, who could hear the low frequencies just before earthquakes. This woman agreed with Adele that there would be a large quake a ways south of San Diego the next day. Were we thunderstruck when we heard the next morning of the devastation in Mexico City! 3. My family and I moved to the Vancouver, WA area 9 months ago because of our very strong concern over devastating seismic events soon to befall Southern California. However, I have not yet regained my seismic "feelings" here in the Northwest that I had in California (although we have been having 'earthquake weather' here around Portland the last couple of days, and that, coupled with no real aftershocks following the latest Seattle quake, leads me to believe that a pretty big one will come any time now between Seattle and Klamath Falls. Regards, Michael Stucky +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NOTE from Bob Shannon Regarding Michaels letter I have a few thoughts. Moving to Vancouver Washington *may* be only a step ahead of disaster. Various organizations are now predicting the possibility of a LARGE earthquake in the Cascadian subduction zone. This *could* definately effect the Vancouver WA. area ....however it is only a 4-5 hour drive east, over the Cascades, to a much safer area. Although Chelan, Moses Lake and other areas have their share of quakes, the likelyhood of a large quake is much more remote. Two people hearing a low frequency noise before earthquakes. This is interesting. While living in Ferry County WA, I and my wife could "hear" a low frequency hum, especially during the cold winter months. I had an almost intuitive feeling that this could be a crystal noise. After asking many of the local old timers, I found that they too "knew" that this was a noise coming from large crystal nodes in the area. Some members of the Colville Confederation ofIndians (makes up 1/2 of Ferry county) concurred. Michael also mentions not yet regaining his "feelings" after having moved to the Pacific Northwest. This correlates with what happened when I moved to new areas. It took a while to "get my bearings". Perhaps this has something to do with the magnetite in our systems. A scientist/geologist by the name of Snead, told me that while he was doing graduate work at Stanford, he had heard of a professor who was learned in the area of geomag, certain animals and in human blood. It appears that 1/10,000 of our red blood cells contains magnetite, which in theory could transmit to us, subtle changes in in the earths field. He did go on however to mention that those field changes at certain frequencies, might be too weak for the body to understand due to normal body "masking". We are interested in hearing from anyone who has more or updated information in this area! While we are speaking about the Pacific Northwest, I want you all to be aware that a growing number of folks in Washington and Oregon are concerned about the near future as pertains earthquakes such as the following note we received: From: D M Good day Bob, I have just started reading the news groups regarding earthquakes. I have been interested in the different predictions of different people. Thanks to the news group I finally found out how to get a subscription to the Earth Changes newsletter. I am also trying to get ahold of the newsletter of Mr. Berkland. (ED NOTE Concerning Mr. Berklands newsletter. For a sample copy of Berkland's newsletter Syzygy, send a self-addressed stamped business envelope to Berkland at 14927 East Hills Drive, San Jose, CA 95127. An annual subscription costs $35....but Pinpoint is *Free*!) The reason I am interested in earthquakes is because I happen to live in an area that is due for a major, Seattle WA. We just had a wake up call this last week with our little 5.0. I lived for 19 years in Alaska and was used to small quakes up there but there seems to be a growing number of people that think the Pacific NW is due for its big one, which will probably trigger others. Sincerely, D.M. ------------------------------------------------------------- ...and here is another example of the letters of concern we receive daily from Washington State: From: MS JED Subject: Megathrust Question To: Rev. Shannon DEAR MR. SHANNON, Thank you for the info on the quakes up here. I really am thankful that you and B talk to me. If it's not too much trouble I'd like to ask one more question. If the Cascade fault should go, what kind of damage are we talking about for Spokane, Washington? How hard would Spokane feel it? Thank You Very Much, J.D. Prodigy.com BOB SAYS: The area of concern is the Cascadian subduction zone. I saw a recent post about this area from a geologist/newsletter publisher that confused me, so I went to my "resident expert", B. Follows is what she posted on ca.earthquakes concerning that area: ca.earthquakes Item From:B (We all know who she is:) Subject: Re: Megathrust Question To: ca.earthquakes sci.geo.earthquakes First of all - we want to call the area in question - The Cascadia Subduction Zone. A cascadia megathrust is a great EQ event on the order of 8.5 - 9.5 that is long in duration. These have occurred at historic intervals. The most recent was 300 years ago, and previous ones at 200 to 500 years. Studies show that sinkage and uplift along the coasts of Washington, Oregon, and Northern California all seem to correlate. This indicates that the Juan de Fuca plate (Oregon & Washington) and the Gorda plate (Oregon & California) have both subducted with megathrust events at the same time. This does not mean that they both start subducting at exactly the same time. This means it might start around Seattle and like a zipper head south - tripping the Gorda plate into action. It could be that the Gorda plate (this is my idea of it) being younger and more active is actually the one that starts the whole shabang off. The JdF is older and colder and steadily creeps. Last I heard, enough stress had built up off the coast of Washington (near Seattle) from the JdF plate in the CSZ to produce an 8.1. Take your pick at which end the process will start. The "zipper" effect will increase the duration of the shaking. While the posting above suggests that thrust fault activity during a megathrust event is rare - I believe in the other side of the coin that says the thrust faults on the NA plate above the subducting plates rupture during megathrust events and it is rare for them to rupture on their own without a megathtrust to drive them. It is in fact very rare for them (thrust faults within subduction zones) - as studies around the world at other subduction sites indicate - for these type of thrust faults to go without a megathrust to rupture them. (ED NOTE* And JD, the Spokane area is very much safe. If not,I would not have invested in 20 acres only 75 miles north of you! But watch out for that ash!) -------------------------------------------------- We received a letter from Karin Hart (name used with permission), whose God-father was a geologist with the USGS in several states over a period of many years...I asked Karin if she would tell me what it was like being raised in an earthquake conscious environment. She replied.... ---------------------------- Dear Rev. Rob; Sure thing. When you grow-up in earthquake country, you know about earthquakes and the potential of damage. When you grow-up in a family in earthquake country and spend time with people who study earthquakes, the awareness becomes almost built in. My God-father, Lou, was a geophyisist for the USGS, working in Washington DC, Denver, and Menlo Park before he retired several years ago. He and his wife met my folks in Washington during a time period, after they finished college on the WWII GI bill. We had family dinners and other get togethers often. Ever present was the topic of earthquakes and how people never seemed to get ready for them by taking simple precautions. He encouraged my mother to check to be sure that the foundation of our South Bay home was bolted, and to do both simple and slightly more complicated things to modify the kitchen. We installed latches on all the cupboards to keep them from swinging open and loosing the contents in a quake. The one thing I remember that we did that none of the neigbors did (mind you this was the mid to late '60s) was build sliding doors over the kitchen cabinets where people have a habit of putting large bowls or heavy appliances overhead. Everyone knew where the gas shut off was located and how to do it. We also looked with great interst at soil maps where we lived from the USGS and the California State Dept of Mines. My mom's house is not on land fill, but not bedrock, either. I've always made a point to read those maps when I was considering living somewhere, and studied both the flood and soil maps when I bought my own house back in 1983. Yes, I live near the Hayward Fault, but I live in as good of an area I can here because I checked. I think the only thing I worry about is I'll be in Downtown SF, Oakland or Berkeley whe the big quake hits the Hayward Fault. We used to say while he worked in Menlo Park that when Uncle Lou moved out of California, the "Big One" must be coming. When he moved to Colorado to work the last few years before retirement, I thought this is it. But it was several years before I was in a big quake, and that was up in Eureka in about 1981. Of course, I was in the East Bay when the 1989 quake hit over on the San Andreas Fault. In fact, I was at home reading a book. It was the only quake in my life I was able to get into a "doorway" during a quake. I think it was because I felt a small pre-quake first and was in the doorway when the big shaking began. Also, our family phone tree worked in checking in that you were safe. My older brother was able to call me from Oregon (he's the out-of-state contact) because he dialed as soon as the ball game went off-the air. Only from talking to him did I learn how bad the quake was (I thought it was 5.0, max). When we heard on the radio that the Berkeley Public Library might be on fire, I made the decision to return to work and check to see if I was needed (I work for a local utility). Bob asked me to say a bit about being raised with an earthquake preparidness coniousness. I will say that it makes you think prevention a lot. I also agree that it is true that if you don't do something about being prepared for a disaster within 24 hours of thinking "I better do something," you likely won't. So, please take a moment and do something to get ready... even something as simple as working out who in your family you're going to call so everyone knows each other is safe and you don't tie up the phone lines. Karin Hart +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= JACK COLES WHERE ARE YE? A new suscriber wrote us: Message From: MPK Subject: Newsletter! To: Rev R.Shannon Put me in coach!.....I think what you are doing has a lot of merit. I look forward to posts from both you and Dennis. Although only a lurker, I have been following ca.earthquakes since my first experience with an EQ (Loma Prieta) I was on Government Island (aka Coast Guard Island) in the middle of the Oakland Estuary about a quarter mile from the Cypress Structure. The Island is man-made, so I learned what liquification is all about. My background is military telecommunications (radio) and was really interested in what Jack Coles was doing with his old R-390 VLF reciever. Radio/magnetic frequencies are all around us and most everything "emits" some sort of energy. I believe that these energies can be recieved by not olny standard electronic equipment but some people that can tune in and focus. I also believe that the animal kingdom can do this also (maybe even better) and that there is a correlation between lost pets, pets exibiting strange behavior and electronic equipment doing the same. I live in SR (S County) on the Rogers Creek fault. I would like to be put on your mailing list for the news letter and perhaps put in my $.02 every once and a while. Keep up the good work! ------------------------------------------------ BOB SAYS: We keep coming back to the same things...waves of energy...ULF,VLF and reactions with the earth, it's geomag field and perhaps even its interaction with various atmospheric belts. This is certainly an area that needs to be studied more. I feel it is where much of my "incoming energy generates" (see PART II of my column next issue). PLEASE do put in your whole dollars worth for our next newsletter. We are craving for more information on RF frequencies! And Jack Coles, if your out there somewhere listening...call home:) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ While we are close to the wave discussion, let me share a back and forth letter between a S. of Southern California and myself. S wrote me: : I sometimes sense an overwhelming angst of imprisonment for 7-3 days :before a quake... :dying off within a few hours afterward. :This was the case with both Northridge & Kobe. :I suspect my mechanism is simply empathy for the tension which the :rest of the life around me feels without noticing or acknowledging. This :is based upon the tapering effect after the quake... It's hard to guess. Rev. Shannon replied: Hmmmm.Your in Southern Cal? I am guessing here....I am in Mendocino. Much sparcer population to be empathetic to in any direct sense...I feel as though whatever is going on it is universal in genesis...for instance certain waves would be likely the cause such as ELF or ULF. Studies have been done with such and psychiatric patients years ago. 'Twas found that ELF exacerbated schizophrenia for instance..Unfortunately I have no citations on it. I read it and tossed it. At the time I had no interest. One thing you say is *quite* true...It's awfully hard to guess at the mechanism, which is one of the reasons I started this newsletter. Maybe we can make some sense out of it by examing what each other feels. It will be eons before science takes notice;not to discredit good science, but it wouldnt be good science if it were not slow and methodical. S went on: :When the angst hits, I usually get in more arguments, and make others :equally uncomfortable. I hesitate to open the can of :worms that is the earnest attempt to refine/record/stat-anal, etc... :BUT I'm curious to hear your thoughts. It's like marching on quicksand to :try and convince one's self that such a pursuit can be done according to :scientific method without going a bit crazy... It takes guts. Arguements...yes...perhaps so...and much more...I think it depends on the sensitivity and preclusion of each person. Examples..A man predisposed to assualt on wife, yet going through therapy may have a "setback". An alcoholic in remission may go on a bing e. In my case, depression deepens, paranoia becomes evident (depending on the wave form), agorapobic syptoms increase, panic attacks occur. Now this could happen lets say because something else very stressfull is also occurring such as last month when I found that my father was dying..... or two months ago when I had to drive 4 hours to Oakland through BAD neighborhoods....or when the flu or a cold strikes...These are things that I call "masks". I have yet to decide whether "masks" are the cause of my problems at that time, or whether they are simply deepening the already brewing crisis. It is also possible that "masks" are a part of the whole process. In the gestault sense...the web, hypertext of life sense, we are all interconnected with the vast system of earth/body/mind. So separating certain other "causes" of symtoms is one of my ongoing tasks. Thanks for your input....write more! Rev. Robert Shannon +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MODERN NATIVE AMERICANS OUTLOOKS: A few weeks ago it occured to me that Native Americans must have had some real interest in earthquakes, but I was thinking more along the lines of ancients..When I asked the questions on the Native American Conferences I received replies from todays Natives and here are a couple...I have deleted much, as the posts were quite lengthy.. First from a Turtle Clan Ojibwe: ^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ "We did not weave the web of life. We | are merely a strand in it. Whatever | we do to the web, we do to ourselves" | --"Walk gently on Mother Earth" -- | ^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ (parts deleted)...But one thing that seems fairly obvious to me is that our "West Coast Volcanic Chain" (Mts. Rainier, St, Helens, Hood, Shasta, Lassen, Mammoth, etc.) are along the Pacific Plate Subduction Zone. Hence, if there is a volcanic eruption at St. Helens, there will be earthquakes at the afore mentioned areas & Crater Lake as well, since it is what is left of a volcano. You'll also notice changes in the activity of California's "termal areas" when ever there are earthquakes anywhere on that "zone". (parts deleted)....Something as geologically "earth shaking" as a break of the continent at this point would certainly cause a great deal of geological disturbance in the desert ... potentially breaking up the access to toxic waste and enabling it to leak into the ancient sub- teranean aquifers, thereby settling the Hopi/Navajo dispute once & forever. My personal feeling is that rather than lose any sleep over something that we, as mere mortals, have no control over, I'll continue meditating twice per day, "calm" in the knowledge that the continental drift has been going on forever; its a natural progression which we can do nothing about. (parts deleted)...I could "dig" having Palo Alto/Stanford become a coastal area, but its not going to happen -- logically speaking if something "had to give", the entire Peninsula would probably "break off" if such a thing could happen. But I suspect that our Peninsula is merely the "high point" of a much larger "mountain" and S.F. Bay nothing more than an HUGE marine canyon ... Miigwetch! --------------------------------------------------- ...and this letter, a short one, from a local Pomo Indian almost echoes what I am hearing from all Native Americans....They enjoy quakes...they enjoy the earth and their ancesteral relationship to it..They do not seem to have an obcession or abnormal fear of earth movement as so well said above and below from E.E. Message From: ERE Subject: Re: Fwd: Native Earthquake Predictors To: Bob Shannon Hello Rev. Shannon. My name is E and I am a Pomo Indian. I have had a lifelong good feeling about earthquakes. I don't believe I was ever told to like quakes, it's just that they suit my temperament. I was born in '70. I was a child during the San Fernando of '71 but we did live in LA at the time. My mother tells of a lamp almost falling on my stroller-bound head. I enjoyed periodic small shakers in Ukiah. I moved away to college in '88. San Francisco state, of course. I dropped out after the Loma Prieta wrecked the building I was living in and changed my priorities. My VW was purchased around the time of last Jan's Northridge and so is named Seismo. I can never tell when they are imminent, but I pretty much enjoy the paradigm shift that everyone undergoes throughout and after them. Just thought you might like to know. -------------------------------------------- PRODIGY UPDATE: From R.G. who posts many of our messages to the BBS on Prodigy of which he speaks in a recent message tous follows: Hi Pastor Bob, Prodigy offers a "New" Seismology Topic under their Science Bulletin Board. You will find discussions under many different subjects, with a broad and open minded look at all aspects concerning earthquakes. This is a short list of the type of subjects you will find, with on going discussions concerning... Earthquake Prediction (animal behavior, Geysers, Sensitives and more), Current Earthquake Events, Daily reports of Recent Earthquakes, Early warning signs of Earthquakes, Earth Changes, USGS's QED & Big Quake reports, Caltech's & USGS's Weekly report, Volcano Watch weekly report and much more. Thank you again! RG --------------------------------------------- AND a big thanks to you RG...I hope you will now take this first Pinpoint Newsletter and post it on Prodigy for us..While your at it, ask you Prodigy friends who have shared interests withus to feel welcome in requesting their own email copy of Pinpoint...They *must* write *why* they are interested in receiving Pinpoint. Nobody will be turned down but this gives us valuable information to share with others! Pastor Bob --------------------------------------------- BEGINNERS CORNER: Most of you are *very* familiar with using internet to access information concerning earthquake and volcanic activity...A new subscriber sent us a short note that will help those of you who are just starting out.... The following is from Rick of the USGS in Oregon... Thanks for signing me up for Pinpoint. In response to your request for information: There is LOTS of work being done by the USGS on volcanic hazards and volcanic processes, both in the U.S. and abroad. I suggest you start by browsing on-line information on the World-wide web to see an overview of what work is in progress then you can request more specific detailed information if you have additional questions. Using a graphical web browser such as Mosaic or Netscape (my favorite) OR an ascii browser such as Lynx, check out the following starting point URLs: Volcanoes: http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/home.html This originates at my office but there are many links to additional sites. Earthquakes: http://info.er.usgs.gov/network/science/eart/earthquake.html http://www.geophys.washington.edu/seismosurfing.html Again there are many pointers and info on using internet resources for EQ info. Of particular interest might be the finger sites for eq catalogs. Using finger sites you can monitor the seismic activity at the various volcanic sites. For instance if you were to finger quake@andreas.wr.usgs.gov you would find: >Updated at Wed Feb 1 16:50:03 GMT 1995 a.k.a. Wed Feb 1 08:50:03 PST 1995 > > DATE-(UTC)-TIME LAT LON DEP MAG COMMENTS > yy/mm/dd hh:mm:ss deg. deg. km coda > 95/01/29 23:22:46 34.43N 118.65W 18.5 2.1 25 km NW of San Fernando > 95/01/30 01:52:40 37.54N 118.85W 9.0 3.1 16 km SE of Mammoth Lakes > 95/01/30 02:25:45 37.54N 118.84W 10.0 2.2 17 km SE of Mammoth Lakes > 95/01/30 07:29:50 36.45N 121.01W 5.0 2.0 9 km SE of San Benito > 95/01/30 09:47:59 40.09N 123.69W 20.3 2.3 57 km ESE of Petrolia > 95/01/30 16:19:42 40.21N 121.35W 11.5 2.2 15 km SW of Chester > 95/01/30 20:42:58 36.33N 120.45W 5.3 2.2 24 km NNW of Coalinga > 95/01/31 14:39:14 40.29N 124.49W 9.1 2.2 17 km WSW of Petrolia > 95/02/01 10:23:01 36.49N 121.12W 3.3 2.1 4 km WSW of San Benito Note the 2 quakes near Mammoth Lakes (Long Valley Caldera, Mammoth Mountain area) Lots of seismic activity there as well as uplift and outgassing of magma. Fun to watch because it is so active. The USGS has a very active monitoring program there. Likewise, the Univ. of Washington site is cooperatively run by UW and the USGS. That is the best site for Oregon and Washington Cascades EQ info. finger quake@geophys.washington.edu I hope this helps. Rick Post script: Our agency is on the chopping block with the Contract with America. If you like what we do, please let those in power know. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------- And thanks to you Rick from those readers who are just starting out. *****************NOTE****************************** I'm sure we all have a favorite home page where we get our earthquake information. Maybe there is one that you would like to share... If so...write us and we'll pass it along in the next issue! ***************************************************** LISTSERVERS There are a number of "listservs" for professional people in the fields. Most messages in these lists are technical in nature and as such